Wednesday 26th of May 2021


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Hey, in 13 years that fetus might be "dating" Matt Gaetz!
Handmaids tale style.
They like wedge issues. They get single issue voters this way. Abortion and law & order were their staples for years. Theyve expanded to cancel culture and antifa.

What You Really Think

All Fundamentalists imo.

As long as it serves to divide us, it won't go away. In this case, it's the fucking Evangelicals causing the problem, and they ought to lose their tax exemption because of it.

I was going to ask if that was supposed to be HW.

The abortion debate as we understand it was only about 10 years old at the time this cartoon was drawn. Its not going away any time soon, but only through an absurd amount of constant effort on their part.

The GOP's job gets harder every year. The need to convince people to vote against their own interests. The reason why it continually gets harder is because when they're successful, the lives of their constituents gets worse. Back in the 90's they figured out if you laid out all the pros & cons of each parties positions in front of almost any voter, they would choose democrat, so instead they focused on a "wedge issue". This is something people usually feel so passionate about that once you get them on your side about this particular issue, they're in for everything else too. Things like not getting healthcare, education, and infrastructure. The wedge issue they chose was abortion and it worked like gangbusters. The New York Times has an amazing podcast about the whole thing you can listen to for free ]here.]().

It's about hypocrisy, not single-issue voting.

Wouldn't Bush be holding his umbrella over dat azz?

It's the only reason my grandmother voted for Kanye... She couldn't stomach Trump, but wouldn't support Biden because of abortion...

We must be rid of this family.

Im not even pro life but its obvious the argument is simply abortion is killing babies and baby killing is wrong. Being anti-baby-murder is the pro life position in their mind. This post is a complete strawman.

Its a comic that shows someone elses political opinion.

But then you see the bushs hanging out with the clintons and the Obamas and then you start to realize theyre all the same and were getting played against each other.

Yep. Please everyone stop using the name "pro-life". They're not pro life, they're Anti-choice.

The cartoon is pretty spot on then, since keeping a pregnant womans belly out of the rain while she gets soaked doesnt do anything to protect the fetus.

There is truth in both. For some it's control. For others, > "The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don't resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don't ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don't bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn. -Dave Barnhart.

They only care about the optics. The evangelicals couldn't run on a pro-segregated schools platform anymore, so they took on abortion. Until the "pro-life" movement, abortion was only a topic with the church.

I think it's more complicated than that. It's about convincing the bible-thumpers that God is against abortion, and simultaneously that the only people who will stop the baby-genocide are themselves. This creates a captive pool of voters who will dutifully and regularly vote for your party because they feel it is their religious duty to do so, and that God will be upset with them if they do not. Politicians only do that which gets them re-elected. The subjugation of women doesn't really do anything towards that goal, so that leads me to believe that it isn't the motive. The motive is entirely to do with trying to foster cultism as part of a grander scheme to secure reelection.

>I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is. \-Sister Joan Chittister.

Whoa whoa can we dumb this down a bit? "Subjugate" sounds like one of dem fancy fifty cent words.

Exactly. If they actually cared about the well being of the fetus they would want to provide top notch healthcare the expantent mother. They would want to offer food assistance to make sure the mother gets the nutrients she needs for a health baby. They would want to make sure the mother had a safe environment to raise the child in. But they don't want to do any of that. You start giving pregnant women healthcare, food, and housing and they start screaming about welfare queens. They don't give a single shit about the fetus.

Not only is it a way to subjugate women, but its a virtue signaling tactic and a dogwhistle to rally their moronic, brain dead, bible-thumping, sister-fucking base.

They care about the 16 year old uneducated minimum wage worker too. They care about the prisoner they can put in a for profit jail where they bill the state and exploit their labor for pennies.

Especially considering they don't mind IVF usually.

You mean most convenient means to get people to constantly vote republican. no. matter. what.

I think George Carlin made a joke about this in one of his bits.

Tantrum incarnate.

All they (meaning the Republicans) are doing is giving a voice to the voiceless. As a Democrat, I assume by your tone, I presume you would support a marginalized group fighting back against an oppressor and from being the victim of genocide. (The babies being aborted in the ideology or religion of 'choice' is a form of genocide, look it up.) You would not be here if your mother chose to.. you know that right? No one who has ever supported choice has ever been the victim of that choice. You just sound uneducated and selfish.

]Relevant George Carlin.]().

Just another serf to help toil in the mud fields while they stay warm in their castles.

Get a fucking grip.

That's what happens when you let your pastor do your thinking for you.

Ehh, thats probably just the one issue they feel comfortable supporting publicly. I'm sure all the other shit appeals to them too.

They aren't even covered by insurance when they are born, why would they get a SSN?

It's irrelevant, they want to gut aid programs anyways; and people most impacted by this law doesn't have much in terms of income to take benefit from the credit anyways... And those who would benefit, will take the money and go to Mexico clinical spas, and claim to have lost the baby... So please don't give ideas to this corruption machine called GOP.

Yes. They have been railing against abortion for a very long time while not caring about anybody already born.

Yes, my son and partner.

They literally only do it because it gets them single issue voters. They dont care.

Needs more obvious exchange of money from a church while the church and the politician are also banging someone who isn't their wife.

Yeah, theyre also the ones creating the rain.

I get what it's trying to convey but I don't think it's at all accurate. It would require them to actually get up off their asses and actually do something for someone else.

And he should be stealing the umbrella from someone who actually worked for it. One of his own voters.

Also, those poverty stricken, underfunded babies will grow up to be willing cannon fodder, for the hopes of getting a GI bill to improve their station in life.

Great read. Do you have the source for this?

Thank you for this.

Then why aren't they interested in the boy?

Certainly looks like him.

FYI - You can go to the IRS website.

More like once they're out of the vagina we can go fuck them.

> Not wanting a fetus terminated because it can be considered a life doesn't mean wanting to take care of said fetus or life. So... "pro life", but only to a point. Like, protecting the fetus until it's born, but if that child dies six months, a year, five years later, because of malnutrition and/or inadequate health care because the mom or parents don't have the resources, well, that's just too bad.

Not fair to compare the two when we actually have a lot of people who go here. :-).

Sad that it reflects reality so much.

Do you come here as a forum of masochism?

So whatcha doing here?

The /s doesn't really work when you're introducing an entirely unrelated topic and somehow conflating blm to abortion law.

What about it is inaccurate.

Im a right leaning libertarian and I visit these places to see the echochamber in action lol. I truly hope people who become so polarized about these issues even consideread about the other viewpoints to determine what their real opnions are and not just boarding the woke train.

Aw. You're offended ;-) It's okay if you don't get it. The high majority of people get it and like it and that's what matters. I'm sorry that you're still mad Trump lost. I looked at your post history.

Low IQ welfare folk tend to be Trumpers not democrats.

That's the most idiotic race-baiting Whataboutism I've seen this week.

Then why are you against abortion? Doesnt your hateful racist ass want that black male to abort his kids? It does say in the first testament to poison your pregnant wife if you suspect cheating. Its called the trial of ordeals. If you can pick and choose what to believe in the book of fantasy fairy tales I choose to believe that part. Now that abortions are sanctioned by god everyone should know its their Christian Right to abort a fetus. Anyone against it really doesnt understand the will of their god. I dont need some uneducated hill billy whos never even read the text tell me anything when I can read it myself. It also says the dumbest amongst us will follow a vain man who claims to be sent from god himself. But I always knew Republicans would follow the anti-Christ. Regular Christ is just a dumbass brown socialist to them. But thats none of my business since I actually read the Bible realized it was garbage and became an atheist because Im not dumb enough to believe that sheep herding book.

Not racist at all.

Theres a lot to unpack here and all of it is untrue and racist. Conservatives, who love stereotypes, sure are good at fulfilling their own.

What shooting are you talking about?


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